It might just be me, but whenever I hear a big name sporting news outlet like ESPN put out what they consider to be a definitive article that includes anonymous sources, I want to move on to something else. In this case, Mike Sando of ESPN put out a piece grading projected NFL starting quarterbacks for the 2014 season into four tiers. The panel of anonymous “league insiders” graded each projected starter on a scale of 1-5, with one indicating a top-tier rating. Five was considered the “worst” according to the report. Without revealing who these experts were, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was placed into the second tier. That rating isn’t necessarily a bad placement for a quarterback who entered the league in 2004, but in comparison to some of those who received higher or similar rankings – Roethlisberger certainly got little love from the supposed panel.
According to Sando, the “league insiders” were composed of eight general managers, two former general managers, four personnel evaluators, seven coordinators, two head coaches, two position coaches and a top executive. By anonymous – Sando clearly does not state what teams any of these insiders are currently or have been affiliated with. In fact, the only revelation made is that they seemed to be attached to the NFL in some way.
One of the strangest parts of the report was how the grades were determined. According to the information given by ESPN, once the results were averaged for each quarterback, the numbers were rounded to the nearest tiers (a 2.49 would round to Tier 2 and a 2.50 to Tier 3). ESPN Stats & Information’s Alok Pattani added one point for every one-tier gab between the average tier level for the QB and a voter’s ballot. In a convoluted system of penalty points, one would almost have to be a member of the Stats & Information’s staff to completely understand the value of the entire poll.
Where Roethlisberger Rated and Why
Roethlisberger received a 1.85 average rating. One offensive coach placed Roethlisberger in the top tier but “several GMs” were said to have believed that Roethlisberger has falled into the second tier over the last two seasons. “If you were there in Pittsburgh, you saw (Roethlisberger) run the no-huddle, you saw the command, you saw him run and make plays,” one coordinator was quoted as saying. “Other people will not think as much of him. He is a very good quarterback, able to get himself out of tough positions.”
Roethlisberger was ranked below the following (projected) starting quarterbacks in the second tier: Philip Rivers (San Diego Chargers). He was joined in the same tier by: Matt Ryan (Atlanta Falcons), Tony Romo (Dallas Cowboys), Russell Wilson (Seattle Seahawks), Eli Manning (New York Giants), Joe Flacco (Baltimore Ravens), Matthew Stafford (Detroit Lions), Colin Kaepernick (San Francisco 49ers) and Nick Foles (Philadelphia Eagles).
Analyzing the results, it appears that most of the ‘insiders’ felt that Roethlisberger fell to the second tier only because a select few gave him a grade below that – averaging the Steelers’ quarterback score to just beneath the top tier (according to their system).
When compared to the other players in the second tier, Roethlisberger has a skill that none of the other quarterbacks do – the ability to extend plays. Yes, Roethlisberger had a difficult past two seasons. The Steelers, in general, had a difficult past two seasons. It begs the question whether an NFL quarterback should be rated based on how their offense performs or based upon their own personal statistics.
Big Ben Stats (2011-2013 NFL Regular Seasons)
Season | Team | Games | Passing | Rushing | Fumbles | |||||||||||||
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G | GS | Comp | Att | Yds | Avg | TD | Int | Sck | SckY | Rate | Att | Yds | Avg | TD | FUM | Lost | ||
TOTAL | 2,749 | 4,346 | 34,105 | 7.8 | 219 | 122 | 386 | 2,554 | 92.6 | 346 | 1,135 | 3.3 | 15 | 69 | 35 | |||
2013 | PIT | 16 | 16 | 375 | 584 | 4,261 | 7.3 | 28 | 14 | 42 | 282 | 92 | 27 | 99 | 3.7 | 1 | 9 | 6 |
2012 | PIT | 13 | 13 | 284 | 449 | 3,265 | 7.3 | 26 | 8 | 30 | 182 | 97 | 26 | 92 | 3.5 | 0 | 6 | 3 |
2011 | PIT | 15 | 15 | 324 | 513 | 4,077 | 7.9 | 21 | 14 | 40 | 269 | 90.1 | 31 | 70 | 2.3 | 0 | 8 | 5 |
By comparison, Tom Brady (New England Patriots), who was voted into Tier 1 has the following stats for the same time period.
Season | Team | Games | Passing | Rushing | Fumbles | |||||||||||||
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G | GS | Comp | Att | Yds | Avg | TD | Int | Sck | SckY | Rate | Att | Yds | Avg | TD | FUM | Lost | ||
TOTAL | 4,178 | 6,586 | 49,149 | 7.5 | 359 | 134 | 343 | 2,150 | 95.7 | 434 | 766 | 1.8 | 14 | 89 | 37 | |||
2013 | NE | 16 | 16 | 380 | 628 | 4,343 | 6.9 | 25 | 11 | 40 | 256 | 87.3 | 32 | 18 | 0.6 | 0 | 9 | 3 |
2012 | NE | 16 | 16 | 401 | 637 | 4,827 | 7.6 | 34 | 8 | 27 | 182 | 98.7 | 23 | 32 | 1.4 | 4 | 2 | 0 |
2011 | NE | 16 | 16 | 401 | 611 | 5,235 | 8.6 | 39 | 12 | 32 | 173 | 105.6 | 43 | 109 | 2.5 | 3 | 6 | 2 |
Summary
Roethlisberger and the Steelers shouldn’t feel offended by the ESPN ranking. If anything, Roethlisberger should be able to look at who he has been compared with and have a conversation with offensive coordinator Todd Haley about the faster, sleeker offense and how they can utilize their selection of weapons to give critics something to scratch their heads over. Granted, Roethlisberger’s best seasons statistically were not between 2011 and 2013, but he hasn’t slowed down any. Despite injuries, Roethlisberger came back in the second half of the 2013 regular season to lead a struggling Steelers team to a potential playoff berth that just didn’t come to fruition – but not due to a lack of effort.
Apples to apples, Roethlisberger has one person to compare himself to and that would be himself. Pundits, ‘insiders’, ‘experts’ aside; Roethlisberger is still an effective franchise quarterback that has the skills, intelligence, arm strength and ability to read defenses that other NFL quarterbacks envy.
Do you agree with ESPN’s assessment of Roethlisberger? Discuss this and the other quarterbacks by Tiers by clicking here, and don’t be afraid to give us the details to back it all up.
You can find the entire tier system here. If you cannot access the entire article (you must be an ESPN Insider to do so), please check out our forum on GridironChatter.com for the full list.
SteelersNasty
July 2, 2014 at 9:20 pm
Good stuff! Very nice breakdown on this “formula”.
sdean
July 3, 2014 at 12:38 am
ESPN lost my subscription six years ago because they try to present crap as facts. Anonymous sources? They can put QBs on the spot but not the idiots that are doing the grading? Nice job Christina of pointing out that despite the rankings, Ben has tools other QBs don’t. Like true talent even when nothing else is going right.
DrGeorge
July 6, 2014 at 2:28 pm
The ESPN poll (based on the opinion of presumably knowledgable men associated with the NFL) ranks Ben R. near the top of the second tier of QBs playing today. That matches the views of fan comments here over the past four to five years. We have also noted that stats are misleading indicators, since the over all quality of the team affects wins and loses and passing yards (weaker teams must pass more than strong teams). We also noted that winning Super Bowls is no guarantee of first tier ability, as Trent Dilfer, Phil Sims, and Doug Williams proved (like Ben, they benefited from superb defenses). The litmus test is whether the coaches of any of the tier 1 QBs would trade even up for Ben. I doubt that they would. Or we might ask whether Ben would improve any tier 1 team if the QBs swapped teams. I doubt that he would. Ben is a fine QB and the Steelers are lucky to have him, but he has several well-reported deficiencies: reduced efficiency when passing from the pocket, some difficulty in reading defenses, a tendency to take too many sacks, and a gambler’s mentality that eschews the percentage pass in favor of the big play. That makes Ben less consistent than the tier 1 QBs. It’s doesn’t make him a bad QB by any means. But he doesn’t exactly walk on water, either. Tier 2 is a fair grade.
sdean
July 8, 2014 at 3:44 am
Doc, I don’t think anyone is disputing that Roethlisberger isn’t in his rookie prime. Even the author of the article is pointing out that Ben should use the ESPN info as motivation to improve. But you have to admit that ESPN just threw stuff out there that can’t be verified, including their own rating system.
gabe
July 10, 2014 at 1:10 am
I couldn’t put Luck in first tier yet. He needs seasoning